Length Of Charter Fishing Trips

What To Expect During 2020 Charter Fishing Season .

We want you to get the most out of your deep sea fishing trip.  What you need to determine is, how long of a charter you want to book.   I am going to break this page down and talk about budget, distance offshore, expectations and quality.  Rest assured, no matter which private charter trip you choose, we will give you our best.   By explaining all of this, I want to make sure that your expectations do not exceed our reality.  If you ever have any questions, please feel free to contact me (Captain Troy) and I will go over the details with you beforehand.

I have drawn lines on a map, in order to illustrate the distance you can travel offshore in a certain number of hours.  Being that most charter boats our size cruise about 10-12 knots, we all get to the fishing grounds about the same time each day.  Because many first time anglers don’t know what to expect or how much riding and fishing time there is, we want to make sure you know everything.  This way, you will know if you are getting what you are paying for.

The distance offshore you travel can affect the size and quality of the fish you catch.  With anything, the more time you have to do it, the better your results can be.  The 6 hour trip to us, give our guests the right amount of riding and fishing.  That is why it is so popular.

Empowering Anglers Through Education

One thing that separates what we do for our customers and our competitors advertise, is the way we educate our guests about our tackle and fishing techniques.   We are the only fishing charter that invests time with everyone, so they will be able to catch fish on their own.

No matter your age or experience level, we take the time to teach you everything you need to know, so you will build confidence and be able to catch fish all by yourself.   We speak gently and calmly to everyone, including the kids and elderly.  We are never impatient with anyone.  We just want you to feel better about yourself and be satisfied with your results.

Fishing Pressure Affecting The 2020 Fishing Season

From what we are seeing this year, fishing will be different than any year we have had in the past decade.  This is in part due to the United States having a good economy, which has resulted in more people being on the water than ever before.   Last year saltwater boat sales were reported to be up 17%.   What this means to you is,  there were a lot more people on the water that are fishing.  With an increase in the number of anglers fishing, means fishing pressure has also increased.   I don’t want to say over fishing is occurring, but we are seeing a localized depletion of fish in certain areas close to shore.  That is why you  need to book a 6 hour trip or longer to have time to get far enough offshore where fishing pressure is less.

Saltwater fish species like red snapper, triggerfish, grouper and greater amberjack are highly regulated.  Because our federal laws require us to adhere to annual catch limits (ACL’s), there are only so many fish that are available to catch each year.  This is good.  It helps keep fish populations healthy and sustainable.    We encourage our guests to always keep the best and release the rest.  This way, we will have a few fish left in the water and available for future generations of anglers to catch.

Why We Don’t Allow Brokers To Book Our Boat

There are brokers booking fishing trips and customers have no idea it is negatively affecting the quality of their fishing trip.   What these brokers do is take or charge huge commissions that are hidden to the public eye.  Customers think they are paying a deposit, but what they are actually doing is paying a commission.   The biggest brokers are not even a U.S. Company.   These commissions they charge unsuspecting consumers, cost 20% to 30% of the price of the charter.

Commissions paid negatively affect the quality of your fishing charter, in hour opionion.  This is because when customers have to pay a commission, the charter company does not have the revenue to get you far enough offshore to where the fishing is better.   Example:  A 6 hour charter costs $1250.00.  Consumers pay the broker $250.  This means the charter only has $1,000.00 left over to run your trip and make a profit.

What these charters do to make up for a loss of revenue, is they stay close to shore (where the fish are all over fished).  These charters have no profits now, so they slow troll and try to save fuel.  Either way, consumers are not getting the best fishing trip because brokers are taking all the profits.

Who The Brokers Are

The online brokers are fishingbooker, fishanywhere, fishdestiny and tripshock.    Local brokers are at San Roc Cay Marina and Zeke’s Landing Marina.  There is also fareharbor that charges 6% to consumers and an additional 3% credit card transaction fee.

Because we want you to get the best fishing trip, we do not allow any brokers to book our boat.  The only way you can book our boat is go directly to our website and fill out a reservation request.

How Budget, Time & Quality Affect Your Fishing Charter

There are three aspects to going charter fishing that you need to know about.  They are budget, time and quality.  The first is your budget.  Budget determines the distance offshore, amount of fishing time and the quality of the fish you can expect to catch.    For us, we set our prices to include enough fuel to get our guests far enough offshore so we can realistically give them the best fishing trip for the money invested.  Budget pays for the fuel.

The second factor is time.  The amount time fishing dependent on the length of the trip you choose.  The 6 hour trip for instance gives anglers about 2 hours of riding out, 2 hours of fishing and then a 2 hour ride home.   If you want more time fishing, you need to budget for a longer trip like the 8 hour, 10 hour or 12 hour trip or longer.   What you need to know is, a full day trip does not quadruple the number of fishing hours.  For instance, a full day trip will require a 3 hour ride offshore, about 3.5 hours of fishing and then a 3.5 hour ride home.

The final factor is quality.   Some anglers define quality as catching all big fish.  To us, quality refers to the service one receives, the right amount of fishing and riding ratio, variety of species caught.   To us, a quality fish is one that is young, better tasting and is of a species that tastes good.  There is also the aspect of quality that refers to the species of fish.   For instance, catching a wahoo or a dorado (dolphin fish) on a trip, improves the quality of the trip.

How Water May Affect The Quality Of Trolling Fishing Trips

As far as fishing goes, the unknown for us in 2020 is knowing what the water quality (salinity) is going to be.  In 2019, we had record amounts of flooding in the midwest, which ran down to the Gulf of Mexico and muddied up our water all summer.    Water quality has a huge effect on trolling fishing.   In order to have a better year trolling fishing, we need less rain and clear, salty waters to roll in and stay with us.  This way, we will have more wahoo, mackerel, bonito and mahi mahi in the area.

 6 Hour “Most Popular” Fishing Territory – Out To 20 Miles

A different kind of fishing charter in Orange Beach.

The 6 hour territory is from the beach, out to 20 nautical miles offshore.  During the summer months, we only offer 6 hour trips.  We actually have two trips a day, except on Sunday’s.   We shut down on Sunday to rest, but if we miss a day because of weather, we will try and make up a day.   This area is the most popular zone we fish.  This area has a lot of artificial reefs in it and has a lot of fish on them.  The waters are shallow or usually 100′ or less in depth.  20 miles is about how far we can range out given we only have 6 hours time from dock to dock.   In years past, we have always figured about a 2 hour ride out, 2 hours of bottom/reef fishing and a 2 hour ride home.

Depending on the time of year it is, we almost always pull high speed trolling lures while we are running to and from the fishing grounds.  Spring is usually not that god for high speed trolling because the water temperatures are cooler and the migratory fish that inhabit these waters are not here yet.   High speed trolling gets better beginning in mid to late May and continues to the end of October when gulf waters are warmest.  The purpose of high speed trolling is to maximize hook time in the water and to catch a few bonus fish for supper.   As long as the water is clear or not muddy because of a lot of rain, I think we will have a banner year trolling.

What has changed in the past 5 years is, fishing for red snapper for instance got real good back in 2012 to 2015.  Everyone could stay within this 6 hour territory and catch large red snapper 8-10 pounders for their customers on just about any spot or reef.  Now, some 6 to 8 years later, most of the larger red snappers have been caught, but there are still a lot of quality and legal size red snappers still around to keep customers happy.

Since bigger is not always better, we focus more on “quality” than we do on the size of the fish.  To us, a quality red snapper is 16″ barely legal to 18″ in length.  These fish are younger and do not hold high levels of Hg in them like the older fish (over 24″) do.  So, we really mean quality fish when we are talking about red snapper.   We do catch our share of giant, 10-15 pound or larger red snapper.  Because the food quality is not good and they are mostly brood stock, we give our anglers the option to release them or keep them.  We are amazed at how many anglers we take fishing who understand the importance of letting the bigger female fish go.  The parents who choose us, in our opinion, are doing a good job raising their kids to be conservation minded.

Because a majority of those larger fish (over 8 pounds) have been caught in the area we fish, we and our competitors must go 30 to 50 miles offshore to maintain that catch rate of larger or what we call “less quality” fish.  Our customers tell us all the time that theyare perfectly fine catching a lot of quality fish that offer an angler a lot of fun and a good fight, and are really good to eat.

How we do things differently and guarantee our customers catch quality fish, is we build reefs where nobody knows where they are located.  This is what makes us so successful when it comes to giving our customers bent rods and a lot of action.

Most of the reef fish located within 20 nm are red snapper, triggerfish, a few vermilion snapper (beeliners) and some migratory or seasonal trolling fish like king mackerel, spanish mackerel and bonito.   The reef fish are around all year.  The trolling fish are seasonal from mid May to October each year.  The water quality or salinity has an effect on the trolling fish bite.

When you choose our most popular 6 hour fishing trip, you can expect to catch a lot of fish and keep your rods bent.  However, not all of the fish will be as large as they were a few years ago.  For 2020, you can expect an abundance of red snapper ranging from 12″ to 18″ in length.   16″ is the minimum size for red snapper if you want to keep them.  They are very tasty and a lot of our customers prefer quality.

With the red snapper season length expected to be similar to what it was in 2019, you will likely see most of those 17″ to 20″ fish get caught within the first month (June) of the season.   As the full moon approaches during July 5 and again toward the end of July, fishing can be a little tougher and we might be struggling to catch legal size fish within 20 miles.  Now, we always catch fish, but during the late summer and because so many people have been fishing hard, we are just being overly cautious because we want your expectations not to exceed reality.

You will have a lot of fun on a 6 hour trip.  I guarantee it, or will make it right!

8 Hour Fishing Territory – 20 Miles to 29 Miles Offshore

 

During the Spring and Fall of the year, we offer an 8 hour trip for those who want a few more fish for dinner.  The 8 hour territory is from about 21 nautical miles offshore to 30 miles.  This area is very popular for those who want to have a chance to catch a few more varieties or species of fish.

99% of the reef fish located in this area are red snapper, triggerfish, vermilion snapper (beeliners), red porgy (white snapper) a few greater amberjack and some migratory or trolling fish like king mackerel, bonito, possibly some seasonal mahi mahi or wahoo.

If you choose  an 8 hour fishing trip, you can expect to catch a lot of fish like you did in the 6 hour range.  However, not all of the fish will be as large as they were a few years ago in this area.  That is because anglers continue to fish farther from shore in order to try and maintain their catch rate and to catch more bigger red snapper.

Red Snapper for instance, a few years ago in the 8 hour range, averaged about 10-12 pounds each in this area and were about 24-28″ in length.   You can still catch some larger red snapper in this zone during the first half of the red snapper season, but just like the 6 hour territory, fishing pressure will be intense in these areas.

For 2020, you can expect an abundance of red snapper ranging from 16″ to 18″ in length.   The best fishing will be the month of June, but as July rolls around and with the almost 2 full moons, this area may be tough fishing like the 6 hour territory.

10-12 Hour Fishing Territory – 31 Miles to 55 Miles Offshore

The full day, 10-12 hour territory is from about 31 nautical miles offshore to 55 miles.  This area is very popular for those who want to have a chance to catch a cart load of fish and a few more varieties or species of fish.  In the past decade, fishing pressure in this zone has decreased because of the number of people fishing stayed close to shore or in the 6 or 8 hour range who were chasing nice size red snapper.   Now everything has changed in those close areas and mostly over fished.   That is why if you want a chance to catch some really nice fish, you need to book a full day charter.

Most of the reef fish located in this area are red snapper, triggerfish, vermilion snapper (beeliners), red porgy (white snapper) greater amberjack, almaco jacks, gag grouper, scamp grouper,  and some migratory or trolling fish like king mackerel, bonito, possibly some seasonal mahi mahi or wahoo.    There are some white marlin caught on full day trips in the fall of the year, but if you want marlin or tuna, you need to consider an overnight or 30 hour trip or longer.

When you choose a full day  fishing trip, you can expect to catch a lot of the same fish like you did in the 6 or 8 hour range.  However, not all of the fish will be as large as they were a few years ago in this area.   The grouper for instance have been fished really hard over the past 10 years.  There are some still out there, but catching some requires a lot of time, patience, weather and a good bite.  You can also expect to ride 3 hours minimum before you ever start fishing in the morning.   The ride home can be as long as 4 to 5 hours, depending on distance you are from land.

Because you want to catch bigger or larger red snapper than 18″ to 24″ fish in the month of July for instance, you need to book a full day trip.   The longer time is needed for the captain to fish enough spots and get far enough offshore to give you a chance to hook some larger fish.